Also whenever I was returning I did not find this site and so saw the old one was back when I put in .org instead of .com I could not get here it took me to yahoo search. So I figured everything moved back to the old site. But anyways the old site when you click on a forum it says something about the database.

they are both still up. but they operate separately now so ya

It's database and security issues again. That's going to keep happening until Doug updates the software over on the old site. I'll try emailing him but haven't had any luck in a long time.

ah I guess it really doesn't matter no one goes there anymore! I wanted to because yes its old and my laptop does great there while this site is well my connection is slow! and it does not work as fast!
thanks!

Speed shouldn't be much different since both sites are hosted with the same provider, however I'll look more into the loading times.

Just so it's out in the open, it's not that I don't want to help the old site or want nothing to do with it, that just isn't the case. I can keep fixing the database but it's going to keep breaking rendering the old site useless until it's owner steps up to the plate and does something about it. At this time I'd rather give members an alternative forum to use until Doug fixes his site.

I do understand not everyone from the old site likes this site, but it's just one of many forums on the internet to choose from.